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This week Jay Leno is posting his review of the Next Gen Roadster with Franz, let’s talk about it! Want to start your career in Data Science? Join me at https://ftdacademy.com

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Also on today’s show:

// Two bit Davinci Model 3 Battery Breakdown – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUqQZC2dcE

// Roadster on Jay Leno’s Garage – https://www.facebook.com/jaylenosgarage/videos/vl.234207497095494/2029962587035731/?type=1

He loved the 2012 Model S – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoFVO31CbE0

// Talking Tech with Elon Musk & MKBHDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevKTPN4ozw

// Is 8,000 Model 3’s a Week Possible? – https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/analyst-great-teslas-model-3-facility-despite-musk-controversy.html

Model 3 Ramp – https://teslanomics.co/tesla-model-3-production-ramp-estimate/

// Model 3 Towing Things – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n77pvJuv8o

// Can a Tesla Model 3 Handle 200 mile commute? – https://onedrive.live.com/edit.aspx?resid=2F26DC023ED1C35A!319&app=PowerPoint&wdnd=1&wdPreviousCorrelation=92349cd3%2Da0c7%2D48d6%2D9ca0%2Db9088ae3b87b

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// Tesla Roadster Next-Gen (2020)
The Tesla Roadster is an upcoming all-electric battery-powered four-seater sports car made by Tesla, Inc.[1] Tesla has said it will be capable of 0 to 60 mph (0 to 97 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, quicker than any street legal production car to date at its announcement in November 2017.[2] The Roadster is the successor to Tesla’s first production car, which was the 2008 Roadster.

Tesla said they will begin selling the car in 2020, though not before the Tesla Model Y goes on sale. Elon Musk has said that higher-performance trim levels will be available beyond the base specifications.

In 2011, at the end of the production run of the original Tesla Roadster, Elon Musk suggested that a new version of the Roadster, without the Lotus chassis, would return to production by 2014.[3] The new Roadster was first teased in 2014.[4]

In 2015, Musk suggested a new Roadster in 2019, capable of faster acceleration.[5][6][7] A tweet by Elon Musk in December 2016 reconfirmed a second Roadster was in the works, but still “some years away”.[8][9] The second Roadster was designed by Franz von Holzhausen.[10]

The 2020 version of the Roadster was shown as a surprise at the end of the Tesla Semi event on November 16, 2017—during which a Roadster was driven out of the back of one of the semi-truck trailers to the song “Sabotage”.[11] Musk explained the concept as: “The point of doing this is to give a smackdown to gasoline cars. Driving a gasoline sports car is going to feel like a steam engine with a side of quiche.”[12][13] The car will retail for upward of $200,000;[14] test rides were given at the event for those who immediately paid the first $5,000 of a $50,000 deposit to pre-order the vehicle.[12][15][16][17] Additional information followed after the teaser, such as the various world-record speeds Tesla said it will break.[1][18][19][20][21]

In June 2018, Elon Musk revealed a potential feature called “SpaceX option package” for the Roadster.[22] This would add around ten cold gas thrusters to the car to improve maneuverability; it would comprise an electric pump to recharge an air tank used to provide compressed air flowing through propelling nozzles to generate a cold jet thrust. The air tank, also called “composite overwrapped pressure vessel” (COPV), would replace the back seats. The thrusters would be used to improve cornering, acceleration, top speed, and braking

The second generation Tesla Roadster is a 2+2 roadster with a removable glass roof. It was designed by Franz von Holzhausen, who formerly worked at Mazda and Volkswagen. The Roadster has a 2+2 seating arrangements, with smaller rear seats for two passengers.[12]

The Roadster has three electric motors, one in front and two at the rear,[12] allowing for all-wheel drive, and torque vectoring during cornering. Tesla said that the vehicle had a 200 kWh (720 MJ) battery, twice the capacity of the Tesla Model S P100D, and giving a 621 miles (1,000 km) range on one charge at highway speeds. Tesla stated that the torque at wheels was 10,000 N⋅m (7,400 lb⋅ft). The rear wheels are larger than the front wheels.[28]


2nd3rd1st says:

Huh, nice clickbait with that thumbnail, you got my view for the first 3 minutes…

stilllearnin says:

wtf does this have to do with jay leno

StreetHawk2020 says:

Click Bait titling.

Poj Dia Vaj says:

If Tesla don’t open another plant, they can just buy Fremont town and call it Tesla

WinterCraft says:

Who is betting that the company will go bust before people are meant to get their roaster.

niacal4nia says:

Why do Teslas pull to the right lane when they see a Porsche in the rear mirror on German autobahns.

Urgelt says:

Using the battery cells being used in the Model 3, a 200 kilowatt battery pack will weigh over a ton, even with clever engineering. That sweet low profile in the new Roadster would look very different.

That isn't what's happening. Can't be.

The Tesla Semi numbers also don't add up. Bloomberg consulted experts and simply couldn't make the numbers work – if enough battery capacity was provided to achieve the promised 500 mile range, it would be too damn heavy and eat to deeply into cargo capacity (and therefore profits). Daimler is reported as having stated flatly that the most they could see from a battery-powered Semi was 250 miles; they accused Tesla of 'breaking the laws of physics.' But that accusation rests on an assumption: that Tesla is using the same battery cells in the Semi as are used in the Model 3. That assumption can't be valid. Daimler also said that the cost of the battery pack would push the price of the Tesla Semi higher than Tesla's announced prices for the truck.

None of that makes sense, if you assume no cell improvement.

And it gets worse – Tesla now estimates the range of the Semi at over 600 miles. That just doesn't seem possible with existing cells.

I think what's happening is a new, higher-energy density cell is in Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) at the Gigafactory, and they stuck that new LRIP cell in the new Roadster and in the Tesla Semi prototypes. Lower weight, longer range, faster performance and – perhaps most important – lower cost, since fewer cells are required in packs to attain a given level of performance.

Musk also promised to get below the $100 per kilowatt hour price threshold for Tesla's battery packs, which is an important milestone for making the $35K Model 3 profitable. And he did say that Tesla is already redesigning the Model 3 battery pack. He didn't say a new cell was going into it, but just how much more performance can they squeeze out of pack structural components and electronics? 5%, maybe? That would be a generous prediction.

No, they have to have a new cell to make that worth doing.

A $25K model is within reach if a new, higher-energy cell is coming on line. Think of a Mini-Cooper type city car with good range, maybe 250 miles – less than half of what the new Roadster will get. A car like that could have all of the advantages of the Mini: easy to fit into parking spaces, low operating costs (better than the Mini, actually), utterly reliable, a decent people-hauler and cargo-hauler for its size. Tesla could sell a boatload of them. It's not outlandish to hope to see a car like that within 4 years. This would be an excellent candidate for mass-market production in China; not all Chinese consumers are going to be interested in premium vehicles.

I think Tesla will also refresh the Model S and X with new battery packs that will reduce weight, extend range, or – most likely – a combination.

With a new, higher-energy-density cell, prices can come down, too. At the moment, Tesla lacks much competition, but eventually, their rising production rate will overmatch demand if they don't plan to stimulate demand, somehow. A higher-energy-density cell will do that. Tesla EVs are grabbing sales from ICE vehicles with their current cells; a much-improved cell will enable Tesla, not only to crush high-end production sports cars, but ICE vehicles in every class.

I admit my notions are speculative and unconfirmed. But nothing else really makes sense to me. Or Bloomberg. Or Daimler.

Luc J Aimar says:

Ben, I've tried access your DSJob page and a notice popped up stating that such page is not available.

Lisa says:

I really don't understand why Ben has difficulty with AP. My 2.5 is pretty flawless. Great for in town, etc.

Rambler Andy says:

Shell bought the largest one in Europe. BP bought the largest one in the UK. which I believe is the second largest in Europe.

Lisa says:

Ben – would you need to tow when you get your Model X ??? (order it order it order it)

Quint Dooley says:

Ben, college students may be able to take the first step into electric vehicles with the FUV from Arcimoto.

Nicolai Weis says:

After the Y tesla only needs a proper hatchback in their lineup. A hatchback could definitely cost $25k and would cater to the european market.

Tigerex966 says:

Audi has demoed a working car system with cameras for the side mirrors.

the modfather says:

What a stupid video

chris carter says:

Ben ,what model iphone do you use? Next to your flat cap, next to your latte. Thanks

eichler721 says:

You should see about looking at the VAG electric cars coming they have 5 electric cars coming before 2020 and broke the pikes peak record with a electric car. Have used electric in Endurance racing for 8 years and are in Formula E so they will be undercutting Tesla and also hitting the SUV market first and the Sports car market so they will have real competition

Gabriel Vargas says:

if Tesla wants to be a bigger player in the Automobiles industry, Tesla needs to make a cheaper version car for countries like China, India, Brazil, etc…

Charles-A Rovira says:

Who needs a small rearview mirror when you can use a small rear facing camera which can project a complete panoramic rear view onto your dash,

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